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Old 18th August 2018, 04:11
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Recognize these?

Does anyone recognize the items in the two attachments?
One has been used as a candleholder, but I don't know if that was the original intent. About 8 inches tall, it is inscribed on its body with the letters
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FERN

I have found reference to an HMS Fern, apparently a torpedo boat destroyer, built in 1897, decommissioned in 1919. Would this be something from that ship? It's use? The second photo is of a another item, also about 8 inches tall, and it appears to be something that would be handy in bar fight, but I have no idea what it is.

If anyone is hesitant to open the attachments (understand that!) email me at [email protected] and I will send the pics in the body of an email.

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Doug Kelley
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Old 18th August 2018, 08:41
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The second photo looks like a standard weight from the old balancing scale days …
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Old 18th August 2018, 08:44
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Item one looks like some upcycling of scrap.

Item two is one of a set of weights for use with weighing scales - see pic.


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Old 18th August 2018, 08:46
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Found this pix online ....
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You beat me to it …. (thanks to I had to login twice again.)
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Old 18th August 2018, 11:38
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Greetings Doug and a warm welcome to SH from across the pond. Bon voyage.
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Old 18th August 2018, 12:14
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Pic 1 - The 'candle holder' is the end of a voice tube and a whistle/bung would fit where the candle now rests.
I would guess that it is one of many commemorative pieces made by a Tiffy to present (or sell!) to ex crew and the like.
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Old 22nd August 2018, 15:49
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The standard set of weights for that type is a 7lb, a 2lb and a 1lb.

1lb=1lb
2lb =2lb
1lb+2lb=3lb
7lb oneside+3lb (see above)the other=4lb
7lb one side, 2lb the other=5lb
7lb one side, 1 lb the other=6lb
7lb=7lb
7lb+1lb= 8lb
7lb+2b=9lb
7+2+1lb=10lb

So don't go looking for other weights up to 10lb.
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Old 22nd August 2018, 18:48
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The ounces were fully covered by 1oz, 2oz, 4oz, 8oz.
I was taught all permutations of Mum's scales just as soon as I learnt to read the numbers and add up - but you don't need any of that stuff nowadays.



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Inscription on first item reads Fawn (rather than Fern).
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Old 23rd August 2018, 08:23
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Inscription on first item reads Fawn (rather than Fern).

If DKelley comes back he will no doubt correct his typo.
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Old 23rd August 2018, 15:00
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I still have my mothers old style scales and still use them, they are still very accurate.
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Old 23rd August 2018, 18:07
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Recognize these?

Thanks, all, who replied.
And yes, it was HMS Fawn, not Fern. Haste makes waste, they say.
Sorry for the delayed thanks, by the way. I used to be, long ago, on a maritime list called MARHST-L, and on that one replies came directly to my email address, didn't have to log onto the site to see replies. Then I got busy, traveling and such, and didn't get back to Shipping History until this morning. I will also have to practice navigating the forums and stuff. Go lost, ran aground some this morning.

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