Alternative remedies that work for some.

[Lucy Knight]

Since quite a few members seem concerned about their health and wellbeing, how about saying what non prescription supplements etc have helped them. Everyone is individual so what one person finds useful, others won't necessarily.

One over the counter remedy Ii was advised to buy by a pharmacist, when pharmacies first started giving out advice worked brilliantly for myself. I didnt expect it to work so I doubt if it was placebo effect.

Each winter when I got colds in UK I never shook them off and ended up with very sore and swollen nasal passages. What I was advised to buy and worked brillianty was an aerosol of seawater spray with added copper salts (Cu) with long snout at top of can. It is sold at most pharmacies UK called Ster***r. One can also google it as Amazon sell it.

Apparently salt water acts as a natural antihistamine according to some internet sites.

[Dartskipper]

That makes sense. I never had runny nose trouble when I was messing about in boats in my younger days. It got worse when I relocated to a more agricultural region of the Country, especially at harvesting time, or when the rape seed was in full blossom.

[Quiney]

I have a grand-daughter who has Cystic Fibrosis. She uses a saline nebuliser to help keep her lungs clear. Prior to using it she had to have anti-biotics.

[Ron Stringer]

This seawater that they are promoting ... is it the same seawater that (the environmentalists are telling us) is heavily polluted with the nano-particles of plastic that are destroying plant and animals life within the seas?

[Naytikos]

At one time I had difficulty breathing at night. No matter whether at sea or ashore, window open or closed, airconditioning or not I found myself gasping for air.
Not being one to trouble the medical profession I just lived with it.
Then I joined a ship with a swimming pool. Being an enthusiastic swimmer in my youth this was an opportunity to do it again so I began doing laps of the pool every afternoon while playing Beethoven's violin concerto over the P.A. system (the last movement has a rhythm well-suited to the breast-stroke).
After a few days my nose started running excessively when I left the water and lo and behold my night-time breathing problem disappeared.
So whatever micro-organisms were in the water, drawn from all over from the English Channel around the Cape and to the far East they did me no harm rather the contrary.

[Tony Selman]

It is sold at most pharmacies UK called Ster***r. One can also google it as Amazon sell it.

Lucy, I do not need this product at the moment but have filed it away for reference. I am intrigued by the asterisks. Is the site like the BBC where you cannot advertise or has the product name got some form of double meaning hence the site has asterisked (a word?) letters to protect our sensitive eyes? Might amuse myself trying to work out what the word is!

[Lucy Knight]

Tony, I only asterisked the product name because I didnt know whether being seen promoting an actual brand name was allowed on the site.

If you google salt water nasal sprays, there are other products, but the one I mentioned is the one usually found on shelves in major UK pharmacies. I gave enough of name to be easily googled and found. I have no idea how it compares with the others sold on line on Amazon.

I notice on the aerosol can that it is filtered and made isotonic (so no danger of plastic nanoparticles).

It is sold in 100ml aerosol cans. Also in smaller handbag sized ones, but more expensive pro rata.

[Dartskipper]

Originally Posted by Ron Stringer

This seawater that they are promoting ... is it the same seawater that (the environmentalists are telling us) is heavily polluted with the nano-particles of plastic that are destroying plant and animals life within the seas?

In 1975 the Oceans I sailed across had rather large particles of plastic polluting them, including those Styrofoam cups. And that was just over halfway across the Atlantic. I was very disappointed to find the Pacific was just as bad heading North from Panama. We passed a turtle contemplating one of those Styrofoam atrocities of Baja California. So sad.

[McCloggie]

Boring I know but:

Cranberries. The pills work for great for bladder infection.

I had BI in Netherlands, Doctor would not give anti-biotics, but my neighbour upstairs who was a Canadian Doctor gave me a jar of cranberry pills. They worked a treat!

McC

[Ron Stringer]

Originally Posted by Dartskipper

In 1975 the Oceans I sailed across had rather large particles of plastic polluting them, including those Styrofoam cups. And that was just over halfway across the Atlantic. I was very disappointed to find the Pacific was just as bad heading North from Panama. We passed a turtle contemplating one of those Styrofoam atrocities of Baja California. So sad.

Those large pieces of plastic in the sea may be a threat to wildlife but do not pose an immediate threat to humankind. It is when they are broken down by the action of sunlight and the sea into microscopic nano-particles that they impact on us. Have a look here

[Dartskipper]

Thanks for the link, Ron. Recycling more plastic seems a simple solution, but I'm afraid it isn't. The injection moulding industry uses as much as is practical, but recycled polymers perform differently in the manufacturing process to virgin polymers, and are not as durable in the finished article.
PET bottles for example, much loved by the drinks manufacturers, are difficult to recycle, and unless the actual bottle can be used for something other than a drinks container, it gets converted for the manufacture of man made fibres. As here;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PET_bottle_recycling

[Jolly Jack]

Before going to live in France back in 2008 (now returned to UK), I was always getting summer colds. In France we had a salt water pool. While there and since, I have not had a cold, summer or winter (touch wood).
Although not sea water as mentioned and only small ppm of salt, I think using the pool has had lasting benefits - for me at least.
My father always used salt water for his catarrh (up the snozzle - not drinking) and said it was effective.


JJ.

[billyboy]

I have had medication of different types for Prastatitis, some with unpleasant side effects. Then I heard about Pumpkin seed formulae from "Holland and Barrat" Man I recommend this stuff big time. Prostate normal sized again and "everything" works just fine again. I get it sent over to here from the UK.
Of you have probs with prostate try "Holland and Barrats" I noticed a big difference within two weeks. (wife is happy again too!)

[Lucy Knight]

Anyone had any experience with Scenar/Dedans technology, originally invented by the Russians for space travel. (Not TENS).

It works on a bio feedback principle.

[Rob Pithers]

I use Echinacea tablets in winter, one in the morning and one at bedtime. Keeps me going, even when 'her indoors' has a terrible cold or the squits (she won't take them), I keep on going. Works for me.
Rob

[Ron Stringer]

Originally Posted by Lucy Knight

Anyone had any experience with Scenar/Dedans technology, originally invented by the Russians for space travel. (Not TENS).

It works on a bio feedback principle.

Lucy,

My wife had Scenar treatment on her back and swears by it, but I have never tried it. It involved sliding a little machine, about the size of a smart phone, over the surface of the body, scanning to locate the source of the problem and then applying it to effect relief. Where the source is found, the indication is that the machine 'sticks' and resists sliding.

The operator increases the 'power' until the patient just feels something like an electric shock - like one of those practical joke buttons that kids used to have. Increasing the voltage beyond that point causes discomfort and, eventually, pain.

Following the treatment the machine can slide freely over the detected area.

Seems like black magic to me (a non-believer in alternative medicine) but my wife, who is a healthcare professional, was convinced that it worked for her.

[Lucy Knight]

The made to order Scenar devices from Russia were called Scenar. The mass produced versions called Dedans/Denas, I understand. There is a branch of this Russian company called Denas Corporation in Portland Oregan. There are apparently quite a few UK doctors who have purchased these devices for themselves. No doubt the same ones who load patients with drugs to fill their targets and enable them to earn yet more mega money.

There have been very good testimonials re using the glasses attachment (silicon and look like Biggles glasses with elwctrode around the eyes) for rapidly improving reading vision and computer distance vision in weeks. Also eye strain and other eye problems. The tech is used for pain relief but also many other imbalances eg high blood pressure, diabetes. There is a whole list of the disorders that the devices are supposed to improve. They work by biofeedback and adjusting to the feedback from the recipients brain signals. So not the same as TENS. I read a write up by a UK Vet. He used it on horses and gave an account of how a horse tendon injury whuch would usually take a horse 6 months to recover from took 3 months.

[Ron Stringer]

The young woman that treated my wife was qualified in the UK as a physiotherapist and in Australia took further qualifications to enable to specialise in sports injury. After returning to the UK she got interested in Scanar and went to Bulgaria for training. Since her initial training she has been back to Bulgaria a couple of times to take further courses in order to expand her capabilities.

Scenar is a Russian development but it appears that they are big on it in Bulgaria.

[lakercapt]

Originally Posted by McCloggie

Boring I know but:

Cranberries. The pills work for great for bladder infection.

I had BI in Netherlands, Doctor would not give anti-biotics, but my neighbour upstairs who was a Canadian Doctor gave me a jar of cranberry pills. They worked a treat!

McC

My wife sufferered urinary tract infections and had them frequently.
Told about cranberry capsules and taking one each day for a while now and no more infections. They do work.

[Lucy Knight]

Ginger tea for acid reflux. Yes, it works. I say that having first hand experiencece of suffering badly from A.R.

It was recommended to someone I know by an Eastern European Pharmacist working in a big supermarket pharmacy down here. He told her not to bother with the drug usually prescribed and drink that instead, when she asked for some advice

[Lucy Knight]

Re Ron's post no 18

If you google Scenar Bulgaria trhat is where they have training courses and the annual Scenar convention.

There was a therapist and supplier of Scenar and Denas near Plymouth back along. He us now located in Sussex called Miracle therapy.

There is also a Denas Corporation seller of devices in US, easily googled. They have an interent site and youtubes about the eye attachments etc .

I read on internet that around 1 million people use the technology in US. We usually copy the U S of A. Scenar has been used outside Russia for 30 years now. Why is it not better known in UK if results are so good in certain areas?

Some people go to a Scenar/Denas therapist. Others combine it and they use home devices between the therapist sessions to top up. Some just buy the devices and treat themselves at hone

If certain eye conditions and reading sight can be improved so rapidly why are the medical experts not pushing it to the general public. It is also supposed to be protective against developing certain conditions eg cateracts, glaucoma. Admittedly it is expensive at the moment even the cheaper mass produced similar Denas devices and attachments, if bought from reputable supplier with guarantees; advice and foolow up help, rarher than ebay. The more mass produced a product becomes, the more the price is likely to go down from reputable suppliers. Just like good TENS units can be bought at Boots etc far lower price than the first ones years ago.

I was told by reliable source that UK Drs do buy the devices for their own use.

We are ending up with a UK nation of involuntary/voluntary NHS medication drug addicts. Much of what is prescribed is unnecessary and leads to more meds prescribed for the side effects and ditto Often when mind altering meducation, benzo's (Valium, Temazepan ), Z drugs, antidepressants including Prozac; (SRIs) amitriptyline (tricyclic antidepressants) sleeping tablets, opiate pain killers etc t
They are very addictive and downright dangerous leading to patients becoming addicts and being hospitalised. Often they are handed out for something and nothing initially.

I can't get over how proud custoners of the local Pharmacies are, where I live, when their jamboree bags they have received from pharmacy counter are carrier bag size. Real kudos. They leave beaming and clutching them with pride as well as looking 'away with the fairies'. Did I say most of them are driving cars too. They leave them parked at rt angles blocking in a legally parked car in what is supposef to be a one way system of highways road with restricted parking either side outside the pharmacy. Many insist the one way system doesn't have to be observed too Can't be expected to walk a few yards. Many also think that they have right of way when backing out if they have parjed in parking bays at rt angle to road. over the car driving along the road. Reverse out without looking.

One day I was parked outside pharmacy and was blocked in blocked in. The queue for their medication scripts as usual went right back from the counter to the door at the far end from the counter. I dared to ask whose car it was blocking me in. I got firmly told by the qualified pharmacist I would just have to wait. Bad enough when it was a Coop one even worse now after Well took over. The queue is usual because they are so confused they believe they have ordered it 48 hours before when they haven't Knowing the difference between 48 minutes and 48 hours which is the required tine eludes them. They leave it to the last minute to order any top ups and then when drugs are not forthcoming they throw the addicts hissy, historic fits about how they are going to manage without their antidepressantst that evening sleeoing tablets etc. Pathetic or pathetic

If there was ever a severe supply or delivery problem re pharmacy medication I can envisage mini riots in the pharmacies in UK. It could be the best thing that could happen.

Who is writing the script for this drug movie in the UK.

[RobPage]

I have a spinal cord injury I don't therefore very prone to urinary tract infections UTIs because of that I take antibiotic every day regardless I asked the neurological consultant about cranberry and he swears blind that there is no scientific evidence to back up cranberry yet I've come across an awful lot of people who use it in swear by it

[billbren]

You can endeavor to discover something intriguing on tonusjournal.com/brain-health/salmon-for-brain/ and it will help you in your mind work and another difficult issue with considering and taking care of issues. Peruse about it and settle on your choice. I will be so glad to get some criticism from you. What's your opinion about this topic and this subject?

[Varley]

Originally Posted by RobPage

I have a spinal cord injury I don't therefore very prone to urinary tract infections UTIs because of that I take antibiotic every day regardless I asked the neurological consultant about cranberry and he swears blind that there is no scientific evidence to back up cranberry yet I've come across an awful lot of people who use it in swear by it

A relative was told by her doctor that it was a prophylactic WRT UTI but once an infection was established it should not be drunk. Paralysis was not involved but women, my GP advises, are more prone due to the shorter length of the urethra.

[Lucy Knight]

Bilbren

What about sardines?
This Silicon Valley boffin eats 5 tins a day. Cheaper than salmon and not filled with red dye like some fish farms use.

https://www.cnbc.com/2016/10/11/why-...every-day.html


An interesting one is if you google Dr Brownstein USA followed by iodine treatment and most medical condition. From 1820 till antibiotics came on scene Lugols iodine receipe was used to treat everything. Topical iodine with isopropyl alcohol base can't be bought in UK pharmacies but can be bought at agricultural stores and horse shops no problem.