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Type 31 Frigate names
Always a good subject to get the computer keys tapping. In your humble opinion I think the class of 5 type 31 frigates should be named Amazon, Antalope, Ardent, Alacrity and Arrow. Reason being; the names are not political or contentious, much like the previous Amazon class, these ships will be a more general frigate. Antelope and Ardent would be a long over due nod to the previous gallant vessels.
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I feel Lord West has trod on too many toes for this venial government to give, even an oblique, recognition to any operation he was involved in.
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I would agree on the “Amazon” names being revived, if it puts a few noses out of joint, so be it.
It is amazing how being made a Lord suddenly has a new perspective on things. Shame on them! At times, being PC can have an unwelcome boomerang effect. Naming of armed vessels, I hesitate to use the word ‘warship’, should follow a route of tradition, rather than being anaemic in case of upsetting violent rioters, who show little or no respect for nationhood.
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Naming of HM's vessels really shouldn't be decided by politicians or unelected placemen. Most of them seem hell bent on erasing our traditions.
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In recent years there has been an element if traditional names however they, the naming committee, seem to sprinkle a few new names amongst the traditional ones. Case in point were the Tides ; Tidespring, Tideflow and Tidesurge are traditional yet Tideforce is new.
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They also, seem to be working through the alphabet, A Class submarines, B Class Type 22s, also Batch 3 C Class).
The thought of ending up, through public subscription with a Naval “Boaty Mc.....” The MoD (N) should be helped with historical, suitable, names. Ca Class? Leander(Greek Heroes) Class. Or vessels that have been iterated at least say, 5 times. Or an Admiral Class? Hood, Blake, Benbow, somepeople might even learn something!
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Admiral Benbow is a pub.
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Pub named after Admiral John Benbow, who fought in several battles between 1690 and 1710.
I think the Admiral Benbow was a pub in Treasure Island(?) as well as in Plymouth.
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There was only one battle in 1690, believe me.
And we're still fighting it. |
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Nick.
HMS Leather Bottle? I wonder if HMS The Queen's Head would be rudely pruned to HMS Head? I hope we do not get to follow the practice of the Russian owner who parked a ghastly looking thing with the name of 'A' (Sailing Yacht A) off Onchan head for a couple of days this week. Or, if we do, reserve it for those craft that look like a salvaged second Titanic with the broken-off back end missing. Structure unrepaired except for the paint job and addition of three telegraph poles.
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The Admiral Benbow pub in Plymouth apparently became The Haddington. Now permanently closed sadly.
There was a Fish & Chip shop in Benbow Street as well, which appears to be still there. The two were perfectly co-located, couple of pints in the Benbow, then what must have been the best value portion of Chips in England! Happy Days. Nige (I see that there is a pub in Penzance called the Admiral Benbow) |
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Here you go, Copy and paste from the RN website...
(it looks as though they could not decide and went for the selection box instead) Britain’s senior sailor First Sea Lord Admiral Tony Radakin today announced the names of the Type 31 frigates – which will now be known as the Inspiration class. Approved by Her Majesty The Queen, HMS Active, Bulldog, Campbeltown, Formidable and Venturer draw their names from warships and submarines whose deeds and missions are intended to reflect and inspire current and future Royal Navy operations. Each name has been selected to represent key themes and operations which will dominate and shape the global mission of the Royal Navy and Royal Marines: carrier operations (Formidable); operational advantage in the North Atlantic (Bulldog); forward deployment of ships around the globe to protect UK interests (Active); technology and innovation (Venturer); and the Future Commando Force (Campbeltown). The names of the five future frigates were revealed at the First Sea Lord’s Seapower conference held in Arundel House.
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An interesting selection, suffice to say I'm not impressed, I much prefer single themes as is usually practised. Although I note all these names are politically safe, not relating to persons , battles, geographical areas etc..
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'Safe' names.
The Woke brigade will probably spot that the town of Cambeltown is named from the Dukes of Argyle, one whom may have had some interest in the slave trade. Tenuous, but that's all they need.
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Does his Grace have an internet sales presence. I could do with a couple for the garden. Perhaps Ebay?
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Personally I think the names for the T31 are good - some famous names in there, although there are still not enough hulls to be built IMO!
Summary here
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Jeez Varley you are poking the eyes of the Snowflakes with a sharp stick. Your statue in Tynwald street is in danger of being torn down and fcuked into the tide. Buy a collapsible barricade for Chez V.
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Obviously the names were selected by committee.
Hopefully, the next class of ships in the water will return to the perfectly satisfactory use of naming ships under a form that makes sense. The names chosen will mean little to many people unless they know Naval history. Admirals, Greek Gods, alphabetic, or the like would have been much better surely? At least they havent instructed matelots to ‘take a knee’ when leaving harbour.
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