Go Back   Shipping History > Shipping Discussion > Mess Deck > The Engine Room

Machinery Casualties

Post Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 21st October 2020, 11:16
Tim Gibbs's Avatar
Tim Gibbs United Kingdom Tim Gibbs is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2019
Location: Bideford, North Devon
Posts: 121
Machinery Casualties

Having a morbid interest in such things I have been looking at the history of machinery spaces casualties over the last 60 years. In the period 1960 -90 it seems the majority of casualties involved large scale mechanical and occasional electrical failures but with relatively few fires That certainly mirrors my own experience. I think I had more than a fair share that touched my life in one way or another during that period at sea and in management ashore ; main engine crankshaft fractured in two places, damaged main engine crankshaft pins and journals requiring in situ machining, broken generator crankshaft, hydrauliced main engine cylinder, generator explosion , microbial crankshaft attack, five main engine bedplate failures, crankshaft balance weigh detachment, air start line explosion, engine room flooding, alternator stator turned in the casing and a connecting rod failure. However, in that period I only encountered one engine room fire.
In the subsequent 30 years there appear to be fewer such failures but a large increase in the proportion of fires. And, as if to make the point, last night there was an engine room fire that immobilised the Pride of Hull off Immingham. In these most recent 30 years the standard of reporting and investigation had vastly improved but it is unlikely it would have changed the proportions significantly. Improvements in design, materials, manufacturing and lubricants will account for the majority of the general reliability improvement of machinery but why the increase in the number of fires?
Not unsurprisingly most machinery space fires result from fuel or lubricating oil leaks and the majority of those seem to be on medium speed engines. Fuel systems have become more complex and engines more highly rated and compact. Shielding areas vulnerable to oil leaks and protection of hotspots is much improve but doesn’t seem to get sufficient attention in service when it is often allowed to deteriorate negating the design improvements.. Engineers no longer continuously patrol the machinery spaces as they have become much more reliant on sensors and CCTV systems so little problems are often not identified before they escalate into a major incident.
Fire fighting training is now much improved but regrettably there remains some serious issues relation to the systems crews have to rely upon in an emergency. There have been a shocking number of failures of the fixed fire fighting systems ; CO2 systems that fail to discharge correctly, water spray systems that fail through blocked nozzles or problems with the power supply and foam systems that don’t make foam. These issues wouldn’t necessarily affect the initialisation of a fire but would certainly influence the outcome. Such failures reflect very poorly of the inspection and maintenance regime carried out, usually by the system manufacturer. However, owners cannot absolve themselves by relying entirely on the manufacturer and they must have some oversight themselves at it they who are responsible for ensuring that they vessel is safe in all respects.
And then there is the emergency generator! It often seems to have insufficient capacity for the situation that develops in an emergency and, despite being tested for a few minutes each week, often fail with voltage control problems and overheating when used in anger for it’s intended purpose. In one recent incident, on a five year old ship, the generator had only accumulated about 50 running hours but failed under emergency conditions after 12 hours running. Perhaps it’s time for a rethink; why not make the machine much bigger and allow it to be occasionally used to supplement the power supply in normal operation? It could be limited to running, say, 1,000 hours per annum but if so used it is likely to be totally reliable in an emergency situation and would be able to supply a greater range of services than is currently the case.
__________________
Only fight the battles you stand a reasonable chance of winning
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 21st October 2020, 12:12
Varley's Avatar
Varley Isle of Man Varley is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Isle of Man, G.B.
Posts: 2,487
Very much agreed.

At the very least the Emergency generator should be run routinely at a load representing that expected in an emergency until all parameters have reached stable and acceptable values (especially the uptake) and not simply every Saturday to check it starts and excites.

There are easy ways in which this can be achieved within the rules which allow for occasional use for the emergency set for other purposes (and I would favour one simpler than reverse feeding of the MSB). It need be no higher in capacity than the load balance demanded for emergency duty.

Additionally the configuration of loads should be such that the starting test is one simply of the feeder being opened and the shut down being under manual only command. At leas three failures encountered have been in specialist test features and in the layer of automation implemented to automatically return the emergency bus to main supply after MSB power has been restored (the latter put a con-bulker aground in the St. Lawrence).

One must also ensure that the ESB is considered as a failure mode in its own right. It is pointless to have an essential service dependent on some principal or auxiliary service only provided from the ESB. Such (now excluded by regulation) deprived us of bridge steering when the ESB burned down (with Sunderland Forge it was usually the mains but the Nordic Crusader/Cast Fulmar made it the exception) however there will be others (a series of LPG tankers had auxiliary generator luboil pumps (which required them to run before starting was allowed) powered exclusively by the ESB.

If only I had one more newbuilding exercise. The network arrangements would have been have been perfect (well, obviously not, but after 30 years they would have been much better than what I allowed at the beginning - which included the conbulker above).
__________________
David V
Lord Finchley tried to mend the electric light
Himself. It struck him dead and serve him right
It is the duty of the wealthy man
To give employment to the artisan
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 15th February 2021, 02:50
Chillytoes Australia Chillytoes is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2021
Location: Australia
Posts: 16
Tim's comments resonate strongly with the real problems in shipping today. The fact that crew numbers are now so reduced that the ability to fight a fire manually is almost removed. In days gone by there would be more than one fire party so that in the event of real trouble more resources could be brought into play. As it stands there is little chance of back-up with such reduced numbers.
In addition the comments on testing etc., the reduced numbers coupled with the reduced port time, means that crews are fully on duty almost 24 hours a day, leaving little time for drills and other statutory and company requirements.
The separation of the engineers from their traditional watch keeping duties through the use of electronic monitoring etc., results in people divorced from everyday actual surveillance and familiarisation with machinery. Goodness knows what to expect with the headlong rush toward 'autonomous' unmanned ships.
But this has all been said before.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 18th January 2022, 09:04
Engine Serang Northern Ireland Engine Serang is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Dublin,but I'd rather be in Stavanger.
Posts: 3,042
Do not take the lid off this can of worms.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 18th January 2022, 12:17
Faxferryman United Kingdom Faxferryman is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2020
Location: Halifax, Yorkshire
Posts: 14
Good point by Tim, I have actually inspected a couple of cargo ships, in the recent past, whereby the emergency generator is also the harbour generator, (gearless about 5K DWT).


Useful in places such as Bromborough, which dries at LW
Kev
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 19th January 2022, 02:26
Varley's Avatar
Varley Isle of Man Varley is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Isle of Man, G.B.
Posts: 2,487
"Occasional use" is acceptable, if not desirable. Regular use would appear to contravene SOLAS. The devil is in the definitions.
__________________
David V
Lord Finchley tried to mend the electric light
Himself. It struck him dead and serve him right
It is the duty of the wealthy man
To give employment to the artisan
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 19th January 2022, 12:00
Engine Serang Northern Ireland Engine Serang is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Dublin,but I'd rather be in Stavanger.
Posts: 3,042
I was Super for a number of ships including a 89.99 metre Shipyard Peters "Ice Runner" multi purpose ship. This had, to me, an unusual electric set-up. A shaft generator, a ships generator and an emergency generator.
On passage the shaft generator was used, manoeuvring had the shaft generator dedicated to the bow thruster and the ships generator carrying the ships load and the emergency generator was only capable of carrying the emergency load. Very little or no redundancy and me with a notebook full of "What If's".
Reply With Quote
Post Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 07:44.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.