Vintage Vehicles

[Dartskipper]

I'm not sure my post #112 fits in the clarification comments either! I was only quoting Malcolm's post to add further information about why this engine was designed. I have posted diagrams and links to information about the Napier Deltic elsewhere.

[Tony Skilton]

Got to agree Malcolm - the sound is definitely different! I have only heard them on rail traction.
Just clearing out all my marine records & notes and found an item on high-speed technology relating to the Deltic development.
As said, the engines were originally developed as a marine engine to replace the high speed & very explosive petrol engines in MTBs & MGBs.
But the roots go back to Hugo Junkers in 1889, when he built his first opposed piston diesel engine prototype. By 1892, at Dessau, he had his first double-piston production engine ready, and took out Patent No. 66961 to cover his work. Junkers later granted their licences to Doxford, Fairbanks Morse, and many other manufacturers.
Napier took out the licence in 1930 to build the opposed-piston Jumo 203 & 204 engines, which they called the 'Napier Culverine'. However, work ceased when war broke out, but then Napier was asked to produce a light-weight, compact diesel for marine use, and came up with the idea of joining 3 x 'Culverines' together in a triangular configuration, and so the 'Deltic' was born.
Although appearing to be a very complex 2-stroke, it was in fact a very reliable engine, with 18 cylinders & 36 pistons. A smaller version of 3 banks of 3 cylinders/bank was also produced for power generation for the minesweepers. The Junkers Jumo 205 and 223 engines share many features of the supercharged Deltic engine, some of which produced up to 1838 Kw per engine, with the later turbocharged versions producing up to 2280 Kw each.
The last 5 newly-manufactured Deltics were built in 1982, but Napier (later incorporated into Paxman, then English Electric, then Rustons), spent much time rebuilding these engines well into the current century.
Skilly

[BobClay]

Yes I can remember that distinctive sound of the railway engines. It was a sort of 'get out of the way, Deltic coming through' sound.

[Tony Skilton]

Yes - the power strokes (read 'exhaust pulses') were so close together that it could almost sound like a slow-firing machine gun.

[BobClay]

When I was working on the roof of the restoration garage earlier this year I took this pix of one of the mechanics beautifully kept Kwacker Ninja.

The dog belonged to the garage owner, and was very friendly. But I think the mechanic had him trained to keep an eye on his bike because those eyes never left me as I admired it.

Good looking bike and dog I think.

[gray_marian]

Ford Cars
Different clips!
Model T, Henry Ford, and the Assembly Line - YouTube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RaIT-VeG3M


Ford Model T - 100 Years Later -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4KrIMZpwCY

[Dartskipper]

A wealthy old relative once owned a Rolls Canardly.

He said it rolls down the hill but can 'ardly make it up the next one.

[Laurie Ridyard]

My first car was a 1959 Austin Nash Metropolitan. I really don't think there is a better looking car than this....

https://www.haynesmotormuseum.com/ve...h-metropolitan

Laurie.

[Ron Stringer]

Laurie,


Specsavers and Boots Opticians are both running special offers at the moment.

[BobClay]

The 'Flying Scotsman' passed through my home town today. Somebody I know took a video of a classic ….

https://youtu.be/7iLO2bi4JR0

[Varley]

C'est magnifique, mais ils n'est pas le HS deux.

[Malcolm G]

Naa, It's just a bloody great kettle on wheels...

[BobClay]

I see that with all the publicity about the HST nobody seems to be asking some vital questions:
Where are these trains going to be built ?
Where are the rails going to be made ?
Where are the requisite infrastructure items going to be made ?
You would have thought that for the country that pioneered railway transport these would have been important questions. At least with the above engine, those would have been fairly easy questions to answer.

[Varley]

Whilst I believe that 'grande' projects and the ability to carry them out marks civilisation Bob does ask a relevant question (I would consider it as only one). From the outset of Mrs. T's reign I thought her biggest mistake was not considering the balance of payments (perhaps balance of benefits) when spending the tax payers' money.

Free market is all very well (and generally is) but one would not pay the next door neighbour's kid for mowing the lawn simply because one's own wanted two bob an hour more.

No doubt the concrete will come from Cemix, the rail steel from Tata and the signalling from Siemens. The staff, of course, will be British, if mainly from the West Indies. Perhaps the only thing that will pass through the native population will be the cooling water should they need such an old fashioned heat exchange medium.

[BobClay]

I also suspect that some percentage of that 'grande' 100 billion or more of public money will find it's way to Cayman Island bank accounts, thus causing a world wide shortage of brown paper bags.

[Varley]

I wish I was more disbelieving of such conspiracy theories. Were you listening-in, I wonder.

[Engine Serang]

Originally Posted by Varley

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No doubt the concrete will come from Cemix, the rail steel from Tata and the signalling from Siemens. The staff, of course, will be British, if mainly from the West Indies. Perhaps the only thing that will pass through the native population will be the cooling water should they need such an old fashioned heat exchange medium.

And you shant have Paddy to dig your tunnels and cuttings.]
He will be too busy designing the digital signalling system.
BTW is there a spur to Douglas?

[Engine Serang]

Originally Posted by BobClay

I also suspect that some percentage of that 'grande' 100 billion or more of public money will find it's way to Cayman Island bank accounts, thus causing a world wide shortage of brown paper bags.

Closer to home Bob, closer to home, Isle of Man is quite dodgy enough.
And remember that only the little people get a brown paper bag, Directors, Board Members, Politicians and general Hangers-On will have "Considerations" lodged in a Numbered Account in Zurich.

[Varley]

Originally Posted by Engine Serang

And you shant have Paddy to dig your tunnels and cuttings.]
He will be too busy designing the digital signalling system.
BTW is there a spur to Douglas?

Last week our local papers did headline the possibility that we would be the first international terminal on the route (or perhaps natural pylon). Don't worry about the navvies, the coolies will be over the 'flu by then.

[Engine Serang]

The "Coolies" as you so delicately put it, will be assembling the microchips for the digital signals and arranging the finance for HMG to issue as Bonds. HS2 may have to introduce the snowflake generation to picks and shovels. FCUK Savid Javid has just resigned.

[BobClay]

It's a f***** isn't it these days ? … yer halfway through a post and the world overtakes you … !!! That's bloody modern telecommunications for you !!!

'The Night of the Long Knives' UK style. (Didn't involve so many machine guns as the original, therefore more entertaining.)

[Malcolm G]

Further to Varley's 'coolie' comment - You couldn't make it up:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-51512831

Also, on local BBC news yesterday was a visit by Flying Scotsman to the Watercress line in Hampshire. The line has just reopened to the main because a bridge had to be replaced, just one bridge and it took British civil engineers two years to do it.


BTW the loco is 'Flying Scotsman', the train service by any train is 'The Flying Scotsman'. (no, I'm not an anorak just a tad pedantic).

[Varley]

It was not prescient I assure you. Simply co-incidence. I wonder if the Chinese engineers have vectored-in the British planning procedure and the "HS2 Common" greenie protest camp(s).

For my tax money (such as is collected for the UK) take 20 years and keep the cash circulating close to home and do not squander it further afield simply because it will be much quicker, and possibly a better, job. It is not just the money but the upskilling that necessarily comes with such projects. Perhaps it is not our engineers and technicians that need that upskilling but those that parasitise such projects with management and procedure along with the snowflake demographic that demands that they do.

[BobClay]

You can't help but wonder if Brunel and Telford and Co are turning over in their graves.

[Farmer John]

Originally Posted by BobClay

You can't help but wonder if Brunel and Telford and Co are turning over in their graves.

No, that has been contracted out to Centrica.